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Old 12-09-2019, 09:02 PM
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You're better off not running it at all and winterizing it. Letting it idle for any amount of time and then just driving it up into the garage does not let the engine get hot enough to burn off accumulated moisture of combustion that accumulates in the oil.

It's fun to start them up and hear them run, etc but if it's not going to be run for a month or maybe more it's not advisable to just idle it.
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Old 12-10-2019, 10:24 PM
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+1, Bonz. I had the same idea, winterize, put on center stand, and admire from a distance. My thought on the occasional start-up without getting it up to temp, is it will put moisture in your exhaust pipes, you will turn it off, and the accumulation of moisture will rust your pipes. Here in N. MI, a ride is a far off thing.
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Old 12-10-2019, 10:46 PM
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You are thinking the right stuff!
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Old 12-13-2019, 08:39 PM
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I don't live so close to The Arctic Circle. I still ride mine now and then.
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Old 12-15-2019, 12:03 PM
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You're better off not running it at all and winterizing it. Letting it idle for any amount of time and then just driving it up into the garage does not let the engine get hot enough to burn off accumulated moisture of combustion that accumulates in the oil.

It's fun to start them up and hear them run, etc but if it's not going to be run for a month or maybe more it's not advisable to just idle it.
Duly noted. As per my post, I've only done the garage running once, but making a habit of it would seem to cause long-term damage for a short-term warm, fuzzy feeling. Definitely not worth it, I want it to last and don't need more repairs to do, especially the self-inflicted damage type. Stupid is as stupid does, you know...

Thanks much for the advice. It is very much appreciated.

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Old 12-16-2019, 09:07 AM
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Excellent advice, and you (Bonz) were the 2nd person to advise me to NOT start and run it from time-to-time over the winter. That is why I love this site and never want it to go away (maybe wishful thinking). So the battery came out and is now on a trickle-charge, and I'm already preparing for the Spring introduction of Fresh Gas and an oil/filer change. I don't like winter so I guess I live in the wrong part of the country. Thanks
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Old 12-16-2019, 09:24 AM
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Two Saturdays ago it almost at 60 and I got out for a nice ride, ZRX 1200. This morning it's below 20 degrees, 5" of snow overnight, and they called school off for the day. Being a teacher has its perks, except during finals week when it makes it a tight schedule with Friday scheduled off already as the first day of Christmas break for the students.

A thought on the oil and filter change... If you put fresh oil in this fall, just run it for the regular oil change. Oil will not go bad in the crankcase anymore than it will sitting in the bottle. Even if you ran it a few times the oil is going to be fine. Filter can go two oil changes so unless this is the second oil change, leave it in there.

The oil madness that is easily read about anywhere you want to look for it, it's all about making the person feel good it doesn't do anything for the machine.
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Old 12-16-2019, 10:12 AM
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Two Saturdays ago it almost at 60 and I got out for a nice ride, ZRX 1200. This morning it's below 20 degrees, 5" of snow overnight, and they called school off for the day. Being a teacher has its perks, except during finals week when it makes it a tight schedule with Friday scheduled off already as the first day of Christmas break for the students.

A thought on the oil and filter change... If you put fresh oil in this fall, just run it for the regular oil change. Oil will not go bad in the crankcase anymore than it will sitting in the bottle. Even if you ran it a few times the oil is going to be fine. Filter can go two oil changes so unless this is the second oil change, leave it in there.

The oil madness that is easily read about anywhere you want to look for it, it's all about making the person feel good it doesn't do anything for the machine.
A question regarding oil: The "Winter Storage Tips" thread says to ride it to warm it up, and change the oil while warm. My weather situation is pretty much the same as yours, so a ride isn't possible, and now I don't want to garage run it, for stated reasons. It has quality oil in it, but the thread refers to acids and water that develop in it. Would you run it in a way to get it hot and change the oil, or leave it be until spring preps begin? TIA.

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Old 12-16-2019, 10:30 AM
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You're going to be fine. I take it to mean the quality oil is fairly fresh oil. Any amount of by-products of combustion that have been created in this case are more than neutralized by the oil.

Look at all the vehicles that go stop and go limited miles each way in the winter, everyday, and never warm up for 6 months at a time.

Your bike is in way less "peril" (lol) than hundreds of millions of cars currently experiencing cold weather in the United States of America.

If it was mine I would simply leave it like it is and give it a kiss good night until spring time.
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Old 01-21-2020, 10:46 AM
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Sunday January 12th: 64 degrees and Sunny in New Jersey!!! In order to pull the bike out, I had to move the snow-blower onto the driveway first. Then after a quick pre-flight check and pumping some air in the tires, I was off on a January ride. Felt really nice, and it ran very well! But then....

Sunday January 19th: 28 degrees! I guess last weekend was just a tease! Probably won't be touching it again until the Spring, but I am thankful for the unscheduled ride.
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