Last updated: Tuesday, 26-Feb-2002 12:54:00 MST
New Wires in Old Coilsby Bill KingsonPhotos by Blaine HoopesWire update from Dave Norton 1981 RH coil update from Shane Thomas THE LIEThe spark plug wires on the XS 1100 coils are NOT replaceable. The ONLY solution is to replace the entire coil set with a new one from Yamaha or aftermarket sets such as Dyna ($111.99) or Accel ($145.99) (Dennis Kirk). THE TRUTHAll four spark plug wires and caps CAN be replaced for about $20 with a little patience using only simple tools. It’s easy. THE SECRETAs shown in the wire/pin diagram (below), the wires enter the coil housing and continue almost to the other end the housing. Internally they are pushed on to a sturdy, tapered brass pin at about 1” from the far side of the coil housing. All you have to do is cut away some of the plastic around the wire and it can be removed easily. This tech tip explains how.
THE DISCLAIMERAll XS coils are not identical. The coils shown here were from a 1979 XS1100F. The ones on my 1981 XS1100 SH are a little smaller, but similar in appearance. I imagine they're similar internally, but I haven't tried this procedure on the newer ones. (7/22/00) Shane Thomas has now provided an update for the smaller '81RH coils. There are minor differences which will be noted in the procedure. I wouldn't have tried it if I didn't have spares. PROCEED AT YOUR OWN RISK. USE YOUR HEADIt’s hard to describe every nuance of a procedure, but I’ve done my best. Please read through the entire procedure before beginning to make sure you understand everything. Also, pay attention to the small screws, washers and wires as they come off. Removal and Testing
Wire Removal and ReplacementBlaine and I went about this step in different ways. On my original set of coils I removed plastic from where the spark plug wire enters the coil housing to the tip of the brass pin. See the cutaway photo (below). This provides for the easiest removal and replacement of the wires. However, this method also requires that the new wire be secured with RTV and/or a zip tie. Blaine figured that it would be best to leave in place as much plastic as possible.
This is arguably more secure, but also more difficult. In discussing the relative benefits we agreed that some combination of the two techniques would be best. That combination is what is shown below.
1981 RH coils (and similar)
Looking from the high tension wire end, you can see that the left side of the coil is the same as the older coils but the other side is very different. The right side wire repair will be described separately and will be referred to as the "right side wire".
1981 RH coils (and similar)
1981 RH coils (and similar) Then widen the cut adequately to allow the wire to be removed. STOP. Before trying to remove the wire, cut it off where it enters the coil. For the next step it is important to LEAVE THE WIRE CONNECTED. Gently lift the wire out from the free side (the side you just cut), leaving the internal connection intact. Then clip the wire connection, leaving enough length to solder the new wire.
Pry gently along the exposed area to loosen the wire and slide it off the brass pin. Once the wire is out, clean up the edges of the wire groove. Also, roughen the groove to improve RTV bonding when you put in the new wires. Note: Don’t remove more plastic than necessary to get the wire out. With more plastic in place, the new wire will be more secure. Repeat the process for the other three wires. Note: The coil should be retested from pin to pin according to the instructions in the secondary windings section. Note: Be sure to use copper core wire. Some copper core wire comes tinned and has a silver color. This is important because Blaine showed my silver-colored wire to a Honda dealer and was told, "It's aluminum".
(If you're using a prefabricated wire set as Dave Norton did, you can ignore the next step).
Note: Blaine recommends using dielectric tune-up grease around the wire to seal connection from moisture.
It’s pricey, but will ensure the longevity of the connection. I checked with several sources and they all agree that it’s a great product anywhere connections are made. My friend Joel uses it routinely in his work as a truck and heavy machinery mechanic. However, if cost is a consideration, then the coils can be assembled without it and still work well.
1981 RH coils (and similar)
Then apply a thin coat of RTV over the top of the wire and the edges on either side. "Allow 24 hours for full cure and maximum strength". (Permatex) CAUTION: After installing and gluing the new wires I put a piece of duct tape over everything to hold it in place. This is NOT a good idea because it doesn’t allow the RTV to cure. It does add a nice touch AFTER the RTV is cured. Note: Blaine elected NOT to use RTV. He used dielectric grease along the length of the coil and secured the coil wires with a large zip tie around the middle of the coil housing.
Note: On my prototypes I ground away everything from the tip of the pin to the end of the coil housing.
This made it very easy to remove and replace the wires. However, it required cross-drilling the end of the coil in order to secure the loose end of the wires with small zip ties.
Installation is the reverse of Steps 1 and 2. THUS ENDS THE PROCEDURE Observations and AdditionsDave Norton - 1/18/00 I found that solid wire core plug wires are almost impossible to find and very expensive! I also figured lots of you are running radios, radar detectors, etc. and ignition interference could be a problem, so..... I went to my local Checker Auto or whatever store is handy and replaced the solid core wires with composite resistance core wires. To avoid too much resistance or bad plug caps, I used the moulded on plug caps that came with the set (use whatever is cheap, just be sure the plug caps are right angle or 45 degree angle caps). The preferred wire is 7mm OD but 8mm will work with a bit of effort. Now get a set of resistor spark plugs, my manual calls for Champion N8Y, again hard to find so I used the Champion RN9YC which are the same thread, reach and almost the same heat range as the N8Y (the Champion book calls for the RN9YC, not the RN8YC). Everything works fine, the bike runs perfectly and the replacement wires and plugs are available at any auto store. Also see comments on Accel Spark Plug Wires Tools
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